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Okey dokey; pronounce this foaming agent correctly the first time; and you'll get a prize. ( )

Yes meth is bad. But this one's worse-
4-methylcyclohezane methanol. (Double meth?)

The folks in West Virginia can't even WASH with their water; that's how bad it is.

Thanks coal. You've ruined another precious water supply.

Article

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Update-
73 people went to the hospital, but luckily, only 4 were admitted.
This article has the chemical listed as
methylcyclohexene methanol- posted above was listed as
methylcyclohezane methanol.

Perhaps a typo on someone's part?
http://www.latimes.c...y#axzz2qBhBZjzm

They do not know how long it will take to flush the water supply system to the communities.

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Shortpoet-GTD, on 12 January 2014 - 04:52 AM, said:

Update-
Perhaps a typo on someone's part?

  The media get technical details (spelling) wrong?  Naah.   Should be 4-methylcyclomethanol, (one word) near as I can tell.  Nomenclature like this is (or was) taught in first semester organic chemistry,  in courses like this, courses that not only chemists have to get through, but most MD's and pharmacists too: http://catalog.actx....e_course_filter    So what is this stuff?  Sort of a modified hydrocarbon, sort of like the stuff that goes into gasoline tanks.  You don't want gasoline in tapwater.  Technical details about the stuff here: http://pubchem.ncbi.....cgi?cid=118193   One use for the stuff is described here:  http://www.google.co...tents/US4915825   I think it's kind of interesting that the spill happened at an outfit called "Freedom Industries." http://www.freedom-i....com/about.html

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still learning, on 12 January 2014 - 01:43 PM, said:

The media get technical details (spelling) wrong?  Naah.   Should be 4-methylcyclomethanol, (one word) near as I can tell.  Nomenclature like this is (or was) taught in first semester organic chemistry,  in courses like this, courses that not only chemists have to get through, but most MD's and pharmacists too: http://catalog.actx....e_course_filter    So what is this stuff?  Sort of a modified hydrocarbon, sort of like the stuff that goes into gasoline tanks.  You don't want gasoline in tapwater.  Technical details about the stuff here: http://pubchem.ncbi.....cgi?cid=118193   One use for the stuff is described here:  http://www.google.co...tents/US4915825   I think it's kind of interesting that the spill happened at an outfit called "Freedom Industries." http://www.freedom-i....com/about.html

Thanks for that; and yes, the name of the company struck me too. (their underlying message must be
freedom from health and wellness)

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This article from Think Progressshowcases the dilemma facing the city and it's residents;
no one knows-
1- When will it be safe again to drink the water?
2- When the leak started and how much got into the river?
3- The lack of communication between "freedom industries" and the water company is astounding.
4- At first, they didn't know what the chemical was.
But even afterwards, the water company has no way of testing for it.
5- They don't know the safe levels for ingestion or breathing the chemicals.
(Here's a clue guys, zero percent!)
6- They're saying the chemical "may" have leached into the soil.
Hello?
Of course it did.
My heart goes out to the people affected by this but could this happen again, and again and again?
Probably.

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Cincinnati shutting intake valves so tainted water doesn't get in.
http://www.huffingto..._n_4595291.html

And how many cities are also downstream?
The news reported residents still smelling the stink.
http://usnews.nbcnew...-water-ban?lite

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Evidently, West Virginia has on-going issues with chemicals.
So much so, that they have nicknamed Kanawha Valley "chemical valley."

This recent spill was the third such chemical accident in 3 years.
Previous investigations by the chemical safety board have gone unheeded, unnoticed-ignored.
2008-explosion at chemical plant-Bayer crop science.
2010-toxic gas release from Dupont.

The chemical giants are ruining this planet, one toxic spill after another-
monsanto, dow, bayer, basf..................

But hey, who cares right? All these toxins in various parts of the world provide jobs; too many argue.
http://www.nytimes.c...h_20140114&_r=1

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Turns out freedom for Freedom Industries means freedom from paying US taxes. They owe the IRS more
than $2.4 million dollars dating back 13 years.

Freedom Industries has filed for bankruptcy but it's a shell game; they just shifted names.
And if the bankruptcy is allowed, the environmental damage will go unpunished; not even a hand slap.

We should all be outraged at this!
http://www.rawstory....gal-shell-game/

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The governor of West Virginia has taken a "let em' eat cake" approach to the tainted water issue.
He told citizens- "it's your decision to use it or not"
http://www.wvgazette...ws/201401200041

And what do we drink or water crops with when all of it is tainted, Earl?
Rather than taking this "who cares"
attitude, he should have been saying he would do everything in his power to change these toxic events
from happening in the future.
But he's a politician, so there ya go.

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The Sierra Club site puts it in perspective-

"A collapse of a wind turbine is as bad as it gets at a wind farm.
But wind at its worst does not cause 300,000 customers to lose water service.
It does not cause a fireball that levels homes and kills 47 people sleeping in their homes,
as happened with an oil train explosion in Canada.  
Wind at its worst does not cover vast portions of the Gulf of Mexico with oil."
http://sierraclub.ty...collapses-.html

See also-
http://www.altenergy...-dangerous-mix/
http://www.altenergy...ther-oil-spill/


http://en.wikipedia....rizon_oil_spill

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Poverty and pollution go hand in hand in the region-
http://thinkprogress...erty-pollution/