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[Shortpoet-GTD]

Ok; I think I know we would get El Nino's without global climate change.
I also know that because of climate change; they're getting worse-more extreme.

But did we have El Nino's in previous period's (pre 1940's say) or where they just
weak little storms without a name?

As a side note I'm sure no one can answer; why is the term El Nino acceptable
to even deniers but climate change/global warming isn't?

http://www.nature.co...limate2100.html


"The El Nino Southern Oscillation shows close correlation to global temperatures over the short term. However, it is unable to explain the long term warming trend over the past few decades."

http://www.skeptical...oscillation.htm

[still learning]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 18 December 2015 - 05:49 PM, said:

.....But did we have El Nino's in previous period's (pre 1940's say) or where they just
weak little storms without a name?.........

Apparently El Nino has always been around,  Well, for the duration of actual human history anyway. According to the wikipedia article on El Nino, it was named sometime before 1892 by Peruvian sailors.  Effects known to pre Columbian cultures in Peru.  
See   https://en.wikipedia...rg/wiki/El_Niño
I guess El Nino effects are pretty unmistakable in equatorial areas on both sides of the Pacific, just part of life.  Outside the tropics, effects used to be uncommon, or at least nobody connected unusual weather in the US to a basically tropical weather pattern.

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Pre-1940 was the Depression, and
. . . Early-1940's were World-War II.

There was no TV,
. . . no computers,
. . . no internet,
. . . no jobs,
. . . food, clothing, gasoline. etc. was scarce or rationed or hand-me-downs,
. . . real ice, in real icebox's, and scrub boards, not washing machines.
Every day was a fight for survival.

If there was an El Nino, we would not have noticed it.

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[Shortpoet-GTD]

still learning, on 18 December 2015 - 06:30 PM, said:

Apparently El Nino has always been around,  Well, for the duration of actual human history anyway. According to the wikipedia article on El Nino, it was named sometime before 1892 by Peruvian sailors.  Effects known to pre Columbian cultures in Peru.  
See   https://en.wikipedia...rg/wiki/El_Niño
I guess El Nino effects are pretty unmistakable in equatorial areas on both sides of the Pacific, just part of life.  Outside the tropics, effects used to be uncommon, or at least nobody connected unusual weather in the US to a basically tropical weather pattern.

Thanks.