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[Shortpoet-GTD]

A pilot program is under way in NYC using food mixed with waste water to heat homes.
Methane is the main ingredient in natural gas.
The amount of waste water generated daily in NYC is staggering and they will
utilize that tonnage to heat homes.
This pilot program will collect food waste from 200 schools but if successful, more
collection sites will be added.

Full article here-
http://www.mnn.com/e...th-table-scraps

[Besoeker]

There was one proposed for near where we live.
The proposed site for the incinerator gave rise to concerns being raised by residents about the smell.

The plans were approved about a year ago.

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A parliamentary committee has dismissed the objections of two local authorities to the building of an energy-from-waste project in Bedfordshire.

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Besoeker, on 05 January 2014 - 04:44 AM, said:

There was one proposed for near where we live.
The proposed site for the incinerator gave rise to concerns being raised by residents about the smell.

Nimby stops a lot of things-windturbines, trash to heat, solar farms.
But when people get the facts, projects generally move forward.

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Shortpoet-GTD, on 06 January 2014 - 04:25 AM, said:

Nimby stops a lot of things-windturbines, trash to heat, solar farms.
But when people get the facts, projects generally move forward.

I think general ignorance on such matters too is a significant factor. I don't mean that at all unkindly.
Of course there is some willful ignorance. But, for the most part, people don't have the background training or knowledge to make informed opinions on all the issues relating to power generation. Not can we reasonably expect them to. And, to that extent at least, their views should be weighed accordingly.

A quote I quite like:

"I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."

Thomas Carlyle. A Scottish philosopher born in Ecclefechan.
Bet you can't pronounce that.................

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Besoeker, on 06 January 2014 - 09:44 AM, said:

I think general ignorance on such matters too is a significant factor. I don't mean that at all unkindly.
Of course there is some willful ignorance. But, for the most part, people don't have the background training or knowledge to make informed opinions on all the issues relating to power generation. Not can we reasonably expect them to. And, to that extent at least, their views should be weighed accordingly.

A quote I quite like:

"I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."

Thomas Carlyle. A Scottish philosopher born in Ecclefechan.
Bet you can't pronounce that.................

Good one.
And what you said above that reminds of me that saying, "My mind's made up, don't confuse me with facts."
And I also agree with you on the general ignorance; it's everywhere it seems.

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Shortpoet-GTD, on 06 January 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

Good one.

Yes, interesting name. Nobody outside Scotland can pronounce it.
In Scotland there are bodies of water called lochs Loch Ness being probably the most famous.
And it's not pronounced "Lock Ness". Ecclefechan follows the same tules.

Shortpoet-GTD, on 06 January 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

And I also agree with you on the general ignorance; it's everywhere it seems.

But understandable on technical matters.

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Besoeker, on 07 January 2014 - 05:50 AM, said:

Ecclefechan

Scottish? Sounds Asian.
Pronounced phonetically-
Ek Le Fe Chan (He was a famous emperor in Japan, no?)

My bad-back to fuel from food waste.

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Shortpoet-GTD, on 07 January 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

Scottish? Sounds Asian.
Pronounced phonetically-
Ek Le Fe Chan (He was a famous emperor in Japan, no?)

Och no!
The first Ek is wrong and it goes downhill from there..............

Shortpoet-GTD, on 07 January 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

My bad-back to fuel from food waste.

Quite so...
I don't know about scale or the economics. Obviously there are costs and probable pollution associated with collecting and transporting the waste. How that compares with coal on a per unit basis I don't know but probably more.given volumes and scale.

But there are up sides too.
A stock pile of waste means that there is storage. It can be burned at any time of day or night to best match demand.
Burning the waste will produce some pollutants but, given the short timescale between producing and consuming the waste I think it would probably net zero.
Compared to fossils produced over millions of years and consumed within centuries.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Exactly. Landfills use up a lot of valuable land that could be planted with crops.