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[Shortpoet-GTD]

I suppose someone reading this piece on the horror stories these homeowners repeat about their land
and drinking water supply being ruined
could say that is will be a boon to the housing market, as thousands flee their homes; move to another state
and buy foreclosed homes.
Now why didn't I think of that?

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The ongoing nightmare of Class 2 wells-the perfectly legal dumping of toxins into wells that leak into our
water supplies.
If you don't rush out and buy water filters after reading this piece, you're in denial. And the delusion of buying
bottled water is no better. Tap water has more regulations than bottled.

An OMG article.

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Fracking-water infographic.
Here.

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An article from Bill McKibben on the pipeline protests (tar sands) in Texas and how nasty they're getting.

Police choke holds, (under the direction of trans-canada) abusing protesters, causing wounds and then
pepper spraying into those open wounds. And then they were tasered.
What?

Eminent domain is being used too often to displace homeowners off their land.

Link to the article and a link to ways you can get involved too-
here.

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Tree felling for new tar sands pipeline.
Video and article-
Here

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Leak detection systems
MISS
19 out of 20 leaks
but they also miss
4 out of 5 spills that are larger than 42,000 gallons.

Those statistics are what so alarming about the Trans-Canada tar sands pipeline. Miles of those pipes
will be in rural, unmonitored areas and with the leak detection system so weak, there will be damage
to the waters and soils-wildlife.

"TransCanada has told regulators that its leak detection system has a threshold of between 1.5% and 2%.
Given that Keystone XL has a maximum capacity of 830,000 barrels of tar sands per day,
TransCanada is saying that Keystone XL’s leak detection system can only reliably identify leaks
if they’re spilling more than 500,000 to 700,000 gallons of tar sands a day.

Leaks larger than 350,000 gallons a day, or 1% of its capacity, must be identified within a month –
allowing a leak to generate a spill of over 10 million gallons over the course of a month
before discovery.
And there is no guidance for leaks less than one percent – on Keystone XL, a leak less than 350,000 gallons a day."

In the recent Kalamazoo River leak, they said they could detect a leak in 8 minutes.
It took them 17 HOURS.

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-See also-
http://www.altenergy...__hl__kalamazoo
http://www.altenergy...azoo#entry17580

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Natural Resources Defense Council- NRDC launches a community fracking project to help homeowners
across the country get answers.
Here.

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Corporate power and the elimination of our rights. With the mindset of "corporations are people too my friend",
we're sinking into murky waters indeed.

When a 78 year old grandmother is arrested for being on her own land, something is horribly wrong.

What the trans-Canada tar sands pipeline is doing to American citizens should be raising red flags and loud alarms
for all of us.
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I don't suppose anyone read about the nuclear material halliburton lost on September 11, 2012?

Me neither.
But at least they found it. In Texas.

Evidently it's used when they frack for "natural" gas. Does this &^$*ing nightmare ever end?

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[StevesWeb]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 19 January 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

It might be cleaner to burn than other fossil fuels, but the process is the issue.

Cleaner, perhaps, than coal or oil in the sense of bearing fewer contaminants.  But since methane contains mostly carbon by weight (CH₄) it will produce lots of carbon dioxide, as well as some dihydrogen monoxide.   The dihydrogen monoxide is not a problem, but CO₂ is.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

CO-2 is an issue, but at the moment, I'm more freaked out over radioactive rods lost and found.
Thanks a lot halliburton.

You're founder chaney,  took us to war in Iraq for oil (and not some cockamamie story about WMD's)
spoiled the gulf of Mexico's water for decades and now you lost radioactive rods and didn't tell anyone?
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I suppose what's freaking me out, beyond the fact of the rods, is the fact that I though I knew alot about
fracking. I had no idea these things were used in the process.
Which means most people don't either.

[E3 wise]

In some cases radioactive neutrons can be used to locate oil and gas wells


NEUTRON LOG PRINCIPLE

In neutron logging a radioactive source is used as a chemical source such as Americium – Beryllium/Neutron bulb which provides the emission of neutrons as continuous source of energy of about 4.5 MeV/14 Mev. When neutron collides with nucleus of the atoms in the formation the neutron losses its energy and excites the nucleus of the atoms in the formation. When the exited nucleus returns back to its normal state, it emits Gamma ray characteristic to the atom. The analysis of the γ- ray spectrum identifies the composition of the elements in the formation viz. C,H, Cl, O etc. when the energy of the neutron reduces to thermal level and collides with Hydrogen atom its energy reduces to 0.025eV, also the neutrons are captured emitting gamma ray. Thus the uncaptured neutron reaching the detector is a measure of Hydrogen index of the formation..

[E3 wise]

Scary what we don't know sometimes huh.

[E3 wise]

Now if you really want to get scared I could tell you the chemical carcinogen cocktail that is being put into injection wells next to our water sources and aquifers, all just to have energy.  So whats say we go with alternative energy and save mother earth.

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E3 wise, on 08 October 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

So whats say we go with alternative energy and save mother earth.

Oh, she'll hang in and come back; at least until that black hole arrives but humans will be gone
from their own ignorance to the systems that fed and watered them.

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An update article on the tar sands and hopefully, it will be shot down again.
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"Livestock on farms near oil and gas drilling operations have been quietly falling sick and dying."

A peer reviewed (comprising of 24 case studies) published in New Solutions: A Journal
of Environmental and Occupational Health Policy describes how scores of animals died
over he course of several years after being exposed to fracking chemicals, either via
water or air.
And, what's worse, many of these animals are being sent to market for our consumption.

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Or maybe I should have posted this in this thread?

http://www.altenergy...-eat-less-meat/

Thanks to chaney/halliburton...................

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[yoder]

I've been following the black gold rush in North Dakota and honestly feel sorry for them.  The people of North Dakota are giving so much away for so little in return.  But I guess if they don't like it they can always move somewhere else.

In 50 years my grandkids will learn about the destruction of the environment during the black gold rush just like we learned of the deforestation of the US in our history classes.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

The fight continues. A XL pipeline map is in the link and illustrates how many states could be polluted with leaks.
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[Amethyst45]

How much oil does a tanker use to transport oil from say Riyadh to New York? Would the XL pipeline be beneficial if it offset the amount of tankers crossing the atlantic?