I've probably spelt it wrong, but if your in the UK it has been in the news recently that a council has decieded to use the heat from crematorians to heat up local swimming pools, it uses the heat from the furances use to burn human bodys. To be honest i dont like this idea at all ,people have said that it is disrespectful and in some cases i believe them , i dont really like the feeling that i would be swimming in a pool that has been heated with heat from the local crematorium, it just doesnt make me like it really,Whats
your ideas?
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Energy from crematorians
Started by Jkility, Sep 27 2011 12:15 PM
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#2
Posted 27 September 2011 - 02:32 PM
Haha...I can't wait for all the haunted swimming pool stories!
But yeah, I can see why some would think this is a good idea. I don't think it is disrespectful really, and from an environmental stand point, it's a really practical idea.
But I agree that it's a bit creepy.
But yeah, I can see why some would think this is a good idea. I don't think it is disrespectful really, and from an environmental stand point, it's a really practical idea.
But I agree that it's a bit creepy.
#6
Posted 28 September 2011 - 04:18 AM
Economically it's a good step, but I think it's just morally wrong and you won't get support for it.
Why not just burn trash first and that kind of stuff if you want to heat up your swimming pools.
That's something people would more agree on and you'll also get "Why should we allow such disrespect when we can also do B" ( B = could be my example of trash burning )
Why not just burn trash first and that kind of stuff if you want to heat up your swimming pools.
That's something people would more agree on and you'll also get "Why should we allow such disrespect when we can also do B" ( B = could be my example of trash burning )
#7
Posted 28 September 2011 - 04:40 AM
Yes, I will also prefer that solar powered heater than the crematorium heater.
It is so true that it could give a creepy feeling and sort of being disrespectful to someone that had passed away and to the family. And I also agree in the idea of doing or thinking some other materials to burn that could be also available in the burning process.
It is so true that it could give a creepy feeling and sort of being disrespectful to someone that had passed away and to the family. And I also agree in the idea of doing or thinking some other materials to burn that could be also available in the burning process.
#8
Posted 28 September 2011 - 04:49 AM
catnap, on 27 September 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:
Haha...I can't wait for all the haunted swimming pool stories!
But yeah, I can see why some would think this is a good idea. I don't think it is disrespectful really, and from an environmental stand point, it's a really practical idea.
But I agree that it's a bit creepy.
But yeah, I can see why some would think this is a good idea. I don't think it is disrespectful really, and from an environmental stand point, it's a really practical idea.
But I agree that it's a bit creepy.
I find your post quite funny and I agree 100%. I do feel like it's not such a bad idea if you think about it and definitely not disrespectful but that's just my opinion. I also felt it was a bit creepy but only when I first heard of it but now that I think about it more it doesn't seem that bad to me.
#9
Posted 28 September 2011 - 08:13 AM
Okay so now people are going a little bit exaggerated in energy saving. There's nothing wrong about conserving energy and having alternative sources but this one...oh creepy, I don't think I'll ever swim in a pool being heated by crematoriums. But then come to think of it, cremations are done with the dead's family's consent, it's not even illegal nor do i say it's immoral since they aren't burning bodies for the sake of producing an alternative source of energy.
#10
Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:00 PM
This is a hard one for me to wrap my head around. Initially I was thinking no way. And to be honest, I still kind of am. Something does seem a bit disrespectful about it to me. It in reality is probably a very good idea...but ick, I just don't know. I just cannot get on board with this one. Not yet, anyway.
Now I feel like I might have nightmares, Oh My.
Now I feel like I might have nightmares, Oh My.
#11
Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:28 PM
OK, so it does sound gruesome, but I guess it makes sense. But efficiency and expediency sometimes take a back seat to emotions, and the knowledge that your hot tub is being heated by the burning corpse of somebody's grandmother may be a little much for some people to take.
#12
Posted 08 October 2011 - 01:30 PM
I guess this is taking recycling to a whole new level! 
Seriously, I don't know quite why, but this does disturb me. There seems to be a certain lack of respect associated with this. In a very real sense, however, I suppose it's ultimately practical. I guess you could compare it to organ donation...
Seriously, I don't know quite why, but this does disturb me. There seems to be a certain lack of respect associated with this. In a very real sense, however, I suppose it's ultimately practical. I guess you could compare it to organ donation...
#13
Posted 08 October 2011 - 02:08 PM
Oh my goodness! This is just creepy. It seems like one of those situations in which it is better not to know the details. It is great to find alternate sources of energy--I just don't want to know if it is from people. Can't get that famous move quote: "soilent green is people"--out of my head!
#14
Posted 08 October 2011 - 02:59 PM
I'm all for it. People choose to be cremated and I just think it's likely that the values that led them to choose cremation rather than burial would also approve of using the energy for just about anything. I plan on cremation, so please, feel free to use my last bit of energy to make your swim more comfortable. I promise not to haunt you. 
That said, nearly 2/3 of the people here in the US choose to be buried rather than cremated and it's a topic that does creep people out (even if I don't get it), so it's unlikely it will ever happen. Good strategy for a self-enclosed Moon base, but that's another topic.
That said, nearly 2/3 of the people here in the US choose to be buried rather than cremated and it's a topic that does creep people out (even if I don't get it), so it's unlikely it will ever happen. Good strategy for a self-enclosed Moon base, but that's another topic.
#15
Posted 08 October 2011 - 03:25 PM
I admit, it does sound kind of creepy, but it's only heat... you're not swimming in dead people.
I think it's a great idea... we need to start doing something, and this is something that would allow us to still live the way we would like .. and die I suppose in the case of the crematorium, but it would have less of an impact on the environment.
and like I said... you're not swimming in dead people.
I think it's a great idea... we need to start doing something, and this is something that would allow us to still live the way we would like .. and die I suppose in the case of the crematorium, but it would have less of an impact on the environment.
and like I said... you're not swimming in dead people.
#16
Posted 08 October 2011 - 03:59 PM
sammilynn, on 08 October 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:
I admit, it does sound kind of creepy, but it's only heat... you're not swimming in dead people.
I think it's a great idea... we need to start doing something, and this is something that would allow us to still live the way we would like .. and die I suppose in the case of the crematorium, but it would have less of an impact on the environment.
and like I said... you're not swimming in dead people.
I think it's a great idea... we need to start doing something, and this is something that would allow us to still live the way we would like .. and die I suppose in the case of the crematorium, but it would have less of an impact on the environment.
and like I said... you're not swimming in dead people.
It is actually a selling point for cremation! Save the environment and some cash! Ha! In all seriousness, despite the creepy factor, it is a way to use energy, instead of letting it go to waste. And like you said, you're not swimming in dead people.
#17
Posted 08 October 2011 - 04:09 PM
Yoginitrish, on 08 October 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:
It is actually a selling point for cremation! Save the environment and some cash! Ha! In all seriousness, despite the creepy factor, it is a way to use energy, instead of letting it go to waste. And like you said, you're not swimming in dead people.
exactly... the selling point is something I didn't even think of and it's true.. whether that's good or bad I don't know, but I still think it's a good idea... I would rather be cremated anyways, so why not use that heat for 2 things instead of one?
#18
Posted 07 November 2011 - 10:07 AM
Jkility, on 27 September 2011 - 12:15 PM, said:
To be honest i dont like this idea at all ,people have said that it is disrespectful and in some cases i believe them , i dont really like the feeling that i would be swimming in a pool that has been heated with heat from the local crematorium, it just doesnt make me like it really,
godarna, on 27 September 2011 - 11:40 PM, said:
It might give you a creepy feeling, but it's a very good initiative. A good example of saving energy.
Ansem, on 28 September 2011 - 04:18 AM, said:
Economically it's a good step, but I think it's just morally wrong and you won't get support for it.
To begin with, how is this disrespectful? Dead bodies do have to be disposed of. If you bury them, they're not going to remain in the ground in their pristine state. They will rot, and they will be eaten by bugs. And then thousands of years later the remains of the skeletons are dug up for research, or simply dug up and destroyed to make room for new civilizations to build in that area.
If they're cremated, they're stored in urns, but only till the surviving memebrs of the family are gone. Eventually the ashes are disposed off. Or the ashes are cast into the rivers or the sea. The result is still getting rid of the body in someway or another.
And then we come to the creepy feeling. This is the same sentiment as feeling creepy when going by a cemetary at night. But I really think we are, or should be, past this stage of ghosts and spirits, and all such superstitious stuff.
Finally, the question of it being immoral. This is again taking a backward step to the days of paying respect to the dead. Somehow people just can't accept the fact that a dead body is a dead body. There is still this inclination to look upon the dead body in the light of what we knew as a living person. This is why people go to cemetaries year after year to place flowers on graves. They still think of the person they knew as lying there.
Well, whatever use can be made of dead bodies should be done. Consider it as the the dead person's final contribution to the world.
#19
Posted 07 November 2011 - 04:43 PM
Karim Jessa, on 07 November 2011 - 10:07 AM, said:
To begin with, how is this disrespectful? Dead bodies do have to be disposed of. If you bury them, they're not going to remain in the ground in their pristine state. They will rot, and they will be eaten by bugs. And then thousands of years later the remains of the skeletons are dug up for research, or simply dug up and destroyed to make room for new civilizations to build in that area.
If they're cremated, they're stored in urns, but only till the surviving memebrs of the family are gone. Eventually the ashes are disposed off. Or the ashes are cast into the rivers or the sea. The result is still getting rid of the body in someway or another.
And then we come to the creepy feeling. This is the same sentiment as feeling creepy when going by a cemetary at night. But I really think we are, or should be, past this stage of ghosts and spirits, and all such superstitious stuff.
Finally, the question of it being immoral. This is again taking a backward step to the days of paying respect to the dead. Somehow people just can't accept the fact that a dead body is a dead body. There is still this inclination to look upon the dead body in the light of what we knew as a living person. This is why people go to cemetaries year after year to place flowers on graves. They still think of the person they knew as lying there.
Well, whatever use can be made of dead bodies should be done. Consider it as the the dead person's final contribution to the world.
If they're cremated, they're stored in urns, but only till the surviving memebrs of the family are gone. Eventually the ashes are disposed off. Or the ashes are cast into the rivers or the sea. The result is still getting rid of the body in someway or another.
And then we come to the creepy feeling. This is the same sentiment as feeling creepy when going by a cemetary at night. But I really think we are, or should be, past this stage of ghosts and spirits, and all such superstitious stuff.
Finally, the question of it being immoral. This is again taking a backward step to the days of paying respect to the dead. Somehow people just can't accept the fact that a dead body is a dead body. There is still this inclination to look upon the dead body in the light of what we knew as a living person. This is why people go to cemetaries year after year to place flowers on graves. They still think of the person they knew as lying there.
Well, whatever use can be made of dead bodies should be done. Consider it as the the dead person's final contribution to the world.
I agree, too many people seem to look at the body and the place it's buried as the person still being there, and in a way I can understand that, but no matter what, the person is gone, so why not be cremated, use less space and be put in an urn and it can be kept somewhere the family chooses, and then they still get something to remind them of that person in a way.
Just my thoughts I guess.
#20
Posted 07 November 2011 - 06:25 PM
I'm not sure what to think. I suppose it sounds a bit creepy, but at least they are thinking of ways to capitalize on the heat. I'm not sure what I would think if I were to swim in one of the pools that took advantage of this though.
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