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#1 zararina

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:22 AM

I am not a smoker and definitely will remain one. Smoking do not have any good benefits for our health and for the environment.

Electronic cigarettes are designed to lessen the smoke released in the environment. This could lessen air pollution and second hand smoke cases. Nice to know that for those who can not stop smoking, there is a greener option.

But still, total quitting will be the best solution.

Have you tried electronic cigarettes ( for those who smoke)? Why and why not?

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#2 catnap

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 05:51 PM

Have these caught on at all?  I work with several smokers (have never been one myself) and I mentioned this electric cigarette to them today, no one was interested in it and pretty much scoffed at the thought of it.

I really don't see people choosing this option.  Unfortunately, if they aren't concerned with the pollution going into their own bodies, then I doubt they see it as harmful to the environment.

I wonder what it cost?

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 03:30 AM

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Unfortunately, if they aren't concerned with the pollution going into their own bodies, then I doubt they see it as harmful to the environment.

I feel the exact same way. I'm not generalizing though, I've met a few smokers who'd genuinely want to quit smoking but are finding it quite difficult to do so. I bet people like them would be more receptive to this idea. I'd say that with enough motivation and effort it's possible for people to change their habits and that would include smoking.

#4 zararina

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 05:03 AM

View Postcatnap, on 26 September 2011 - 05:51 PM, said:

Have these caught on at all?  I work with several smokers (have never been one myself) and I mentioned this electric cigarette to them today, no one was interested in it and pretty much scoffed at the thought of it.

I really don't see people choosing this option.  Unfortunately, if they aren't concerned with the pollution going into their own bodies, then I doubt they see it as harmful to the environment.

I wonder what it cost?

I actually do not know how much it is but I think it is not that cheap at all since a lot are not considering it. Here in our country, electronic cigarette is not popular to smokers here and I guess they do not even know it exist. Only those who accessed internet on a regular basis or have  friends who knows it might be aware of this greener option.
I could really agree that better if they would just have that enough motivation to quite since it is better for their health and not only for the environment.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 10:35 AM

Honestly, I have not heard much buzz about these. It could be though that they are popular resources for those wishing to stop smoking and I just have not paid attention. I only heard about electronic cigarettes from a show on TV I was watching :P. I thought they looked kind of silly actually, and if I were a hard core cigarette smoker, I don't know that would help me --do they provide any relief for nicotine addiction? Because that is hard to beat for those addicted to smoking-right?

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 03:42 PM

I've known a few people with electronic cigarettes, but they pretty much use them when they're out of money or want to "smoke" indoors. Would it really be less pollution in the environment if all smokers used this? It's still getting its power from electricity, which is created from burning coal, therefore greenhouse gases are still admitted. It may be healthier for the smoker though, I don't know if I'd chance it because we still don't know what sort of things it's made from (even paints) that may end up having health effects. Especially if it's made in china, as most are. I don't smoke anyways, so I guess it doesn't really matter to me.

#7 zararina

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:14 AM

View Postnick87, on 27 September 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

I've known a few people with electronic cigarettes, but they pretty much use them when they're out of money or want to "smoke" indoors. Would it really be less pollution in the environment if all smokers used this? It's still getting its power from electricity, which is created from burning coal, therefore greenhouse gases are still admitted. It may be healthier for the smoker though, I don't know if I'd chance it because we still don't know what sort of things it's made from (even paints) that may end up having health effects. Especially if it's made in china, as most are. I don't smoke anyways, so I guess it doesn't really matter to me.


I believe that it still have negative health effects of the smoker since nicotine is still inhaled from it. The only good thing I am seeing from using it than the conventional cigarettes is that no or less second hand smoke and less air pollution. So  people around you will not suffer from the health effects of it. And I think nicotine dosage/amount is possible to be controlled by this gadget so smokers could lower the nicotine they are inhaling.
Still my stand is better to totally quite smoking so that everyone will benefit from it.

#8 Jkility

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:20 AM

Electric cigerattes, I know that alot of people smoke but i just dont understand them, does it have nicertine in them? And they're powered by batteries which yet again are  originating from some sort of primary sector industry, which yes it may be clean to the air but we've got the problem of it originating from a primary polluting sector etc

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:22 AM

I know people who have and they don't like it.
Doesn't feel like a cigarette, doesn't taste like a cigarette and after like 3 or 4 inhales it's already run out.
No good solution alternative if you want to get people to use it.

#10 Monkey Doctor

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 11:49 AM

I think it depends which e cigarette you buy. I have friends who have tried a few and have found a brand that is really good. They do not burn the liquid tobacco, they vaporise it. I am unsure about them. My friends who have moved to them seem to smoke more than they did before.

It is not a harmful way to ingest tobacco as far as I am aware. The problem I find with them is this. If you increase your dependancy on tobacco in this 'safe' way, what happens if it breaks/runs out of batteries/you don't have the liquid etc. The you are even more addicted than before and therefor must smoke more.

I smoke but only socially (or anti socially as some may say). I prefer to think I will just quit one day rather than gadget myself up!

#11 zararina

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 07:15 AM

View PostMonkey Doctor, on 28 September 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

I think it depends which e cigarette you buy. I have friends who have tried a few and have found a brand that is really good. They do not burn the liquid tobacco, they vaporise it. I am unsure about them. My friends who have moved to them seem to smoke more than they did before. It is not a harmful way to ingest tobacco as far as I am aware. The problem I find with them is this. If you increase your dependancy on tobacco in this 'safe' way, what happens if it breaks/runs out of batteries/you don't have the liquid etc. The you are even more addicted than before and therefor must smoke more. I smoke but only socially (or anti socially as some may say). I prefer to think I will just quit one day rather than gadget myself up!

I think some smokers much be aware of that fact that electronic could make them smoke more. So that they would not think it is a better option (which I first think it is). So sad to know that the creation of this "green" gadget as they called it was just to earn a lot from it. So the greenest option should be to totally quit smoking.

#12 soccerbai123

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 06:45 AM

SAme with the others, I have suggested this to my friends and they did not like it. They say it does not give the same sensation like a true smoke does.

THey say quitting smoke is hard and you need to do it bit by bit or else they will get sick all the time. I guess that would be a good solution for smokers, maybe they will take this as an option if manufacturers for cigarettes close down,.

#13 zararina

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 12:43 AM

View Postsoccerbai123, on 30 September 2011 - 06:45 AM, said:

SAme with the others, I have suggested this to my friends and they did not like it. They say it does not give the same sensation like a true smoke does.

THey say quitting smoke is hard and you need to do it bit by bit or else they will get sick all the time. I guess that would be a good solution for smokers, maybe they will take this as an option if manufacturers for cigarettes close down,

I think getting sick was more on just in the mind although so true that it could affect their body a lot since they get used to consume or inhale nicotine. Closing down of big cigarette companies is hard to be possible to since they are earning a lot from it.

#14 rjg117

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:10 PM

I personally have not tried them, though my parents have. They are really heavy smokers and have been smoking for a few years now, and they both said that electronic cigarettes are no good. Its a shame because it seems like such a good idea.

That being said, I think the concept is really good and perhaps there are other ways that we can implement them in the future. Also as other people have suggested in this thread, using them as a way to slowly quit smoking seems like a really good idea, because to quit smoking you need to slowly quit, one cigarette at a time.

#15 Bababooey

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 02:25 PM

I quit smoking about two years ago, and I tend to see these electronic cigarettes as exchanging one vice for another. Sure, you're not getting all the tar and smoke, but it's not exactly like you're suddenly doing something healthy. If you're going to go to the trouble and cost of using an electronic cigarette, you may as well put that same money and effort into quitting once and for all. Sermon over ; )

#16 neodoxa

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 09:55 AM

I used an e-cigarette for awhile last year until it broke and I never bought another one.  Do your research and get one that gets good reviews and is a good brand.  You won't be disappointed.  Some of them are terrible, others are very close to what a real cigarette is like.  You get to inhale/exhale "smoke" and you get the nicotine.  It's a win/win for smokers since they don't have any carcinogens in them at all.  It's also a cleaner habit and you won't smell like smoke all the time.

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#17 NeilPearson

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 11:08 AM

I know people that got one.  They were all excited about it and spent a bunch of money.  It just didn't measure up and they were back to smoking regular cigarettes within about a week.  I wouldn't waste your money.  I know it is easier said than done but if you don't want to smoke... quit!

#18 Monkey Doctor

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 06:02 PM

View Postzararina, on 29 September 2011 - 07:15 AM, said:


I think some smokers much be aware of that fact that electronic could make them smoke more. So that they would not think it is a better option (which I first think it is). So sad to know that the creation of this "green" gadget as they called it was just to earn a lot from it. So the greenest option should be to totally quit smoking.


I agree with you here, although nicotien does have some positives for the body. I am no Doctor or scientist but I have read some stuff written by scientists and doctors that suggests their are life enhancing qualities to nicotein. Myself I just like the affect it has on me, especially when I have a drink in my hand! I only smoke occasionally though so maybe I don't have much to worry about!

#19 mangobunny

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:40 AM

My dad is a cig fiend and he tried using one, but unfortunately it didn't work because there was no smoke coming out. He thinks it's like a toy. And it didn't help that in The Tourist, Jolie said something like 'real men don't use electric cigs',

#20 Liv

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:14 AM

I tried an E-Cig and found it useless. I really liked the concept of it but in practice I found it didn't work and actually encouraged me to "smoke" in places where I normally wouldn't have had a cigarette!! Others may fare better...

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