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[Dingo]

A good discussion of the factors that challenge the ability of species to adapt, including global warming. They may make it past one assault but it is the multiplicity of arrows that seal their fate.

http://www.skeptical...bal-warming.htm

[Besoeker]

Dingo, on 18 June 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

A good discussion of the factors that challenge the ability of species to adapt, including global warming. They may make it past one assault but it is the multiplicity of arrows that seal their fate.

http://www.skeptical...bal-warming.htm

The GW is also thought to be the cause of some species migrating.

BBC article here

[DeeNeely]

An excellent study came out earlier this month about the effect on global warming induced ocean temperature change on fish migration.

New research reveals the impact of warming oceans on global fish stocks

[Dustoffer]

I read the book by Prof. Richard Leakey in 1996, "The Sixth Extinction".  According to him we are in this geologic episode, which will end with a thermal maximum geologic period produced 10+ times faster and ~20% greater than PETM which had a 30% extinction rate.  From reading over the years it has been estimated it will exceed the K-T extinction rate of 75%, probably 85-90%.  Humans will not be here to measure the final tally, seeing our dependent eco-systems will have failed.
We know that thermal vent ocean life will keep on.  On the surface, and subsurface, cockroaches, deep underground bacteria, some cave life, and a few plants may survive along with some others.  Speciation with the survivors will take a long time to reach levels of diversity the biosphere had early in this interglacial.
If we could somehow go into suspended animation for several million years, the geography would be similar but the rest of the world would not be.   Will intelligence ever return?  I have seen artist renditions of intelligent future cockroach types.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

Dingo, on 18 June 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

A good discussion of the factors that challenge the ability of species to adapt, including global warming. They may make it past one assault but it is the multiplicity of arrows that seal their fate.

http://www.skeptical...bal-warming.htm

Habitat destruction, environmental toxins, poachers slaughtering species, floods, drought- "multiplicity of arrows" indeed.

[DeeNeely]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 19 June 2013 - 05:23 AM, said:

Habitat destruction, environmental toxins, poachers slaughtering species, floods, drought- "multiplicity of arrows" indeed.

This is why I take the position I do. We like to think that humans are outside this, but we are just as susceptible as they are.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

DeeNeely, on 19 June 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

This is why I take the position I do. We like to think that humans are outside this, but we are just as susceptible as they are.

Well if monsanto and exxon have their way (and they have so far) there won't be that many of us left...........

[DeeNeely]

Shortpoet-GTD, on 19 June 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Well if monsanto and exxon have their way (and they have so far) there won't be that many of us left...........

Those of us who are left will hopefully become something else.

[Shortpoet-GTD]

DeeNeely, on 19 June 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

Those of us who are left will hopefully become something else.

Replace the image of the car with sand-and here ya' go.