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#1 Shortpoet-GTD

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:59 PM

Sorry for the bad news. :cry:

Measurements have us up to 395. (From NOAA) And many experts have said that even if can
get it back down to 350, we're in for one hell of a ride.
At 395?


Our numbers have declined through conservation and cleaner energies taking hold;
but China is pumping it out like cotton candy.
They're saying now we should expect a 2.5 to 4.5 temperature rise within decades.

Nations across the globe must unite to deal with China and India; otherwise we're
all just spitting into the wind.

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#2 Dustoffer

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:54 AM

http://www.ipsnews.n...global-warming/

http://insideclimate...keystone-xl-oil

http://www.skeptical...lion-Years.html

#3 Milton Banana

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

Is 54 years a long time for climate science or a short time?  Is this the highest level CO2 has ever been in our system?

#4 Shortpoet-GTD

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 03:28 AM

From the middle link above-
another link...
http://www.rollingst...w-math-20120719

#5 F.Tnioli

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:45 AM

View PostShortpoet-GTD, on 05 March 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

... And many experts have said that even if can
get it back down to 350, we're in for one hell of a ride.
At 395?
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Yep, at 395, it's already quite deadly. http://en.wikipedia....rature-plot.svg is well known and accepted science. As you can see on this graph, concentrations of CO2 and temperatures go hand to hand. Now look at the top right corner and see where current CO2 is, that black arrow; then draw a horizontal line to see what temperature would correspond to current CO2 concentration. Me, when i do it, i get +12 degrees celcius.

Certainly it'd probably take several centuries, if not thousands of years, for all feedbacks to happen to their full capacity (like exhausting methane clathrates thus stopping any further release), then feedbacks on feedbacks and so on to kick in, act, and change the temperature by overpowering thermal intertia of the ocean, which possibly would start a new set of feedbacks, and so forth; eventually the system would stabilize, if kept at ~400 ppm CO2, at something comparable to +12. Probably way less due to losses of heat being proportional to 4th power of temperature, which is the most massive negative feedback i know of (it starts to be increasingly powerful the higher temperature climbs, and very fast so), - but something like +7 or +8, will probably be the result of 400 ppm CO2 stable athmospheric concentration. Again, eventually - couple centuries.

But of course, we ain't stopping at 400. As mentioned we are not going to keep it under 450, even - that's pretty sure by now. Personally, i think mankind will manage to climb to some 470...480 ppm of CO2 all by ourselves before modern technological civilization collapse, then nature will dump something like 50...150ppm on top of that from carbon releasese from permafrosts, forest fires, desertification/soil_erosion etc.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 03:41 PM

&^%$@*^&%!!!


"Scientists monitoring global atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations report that, for

the first time in human history, CO2 levels could soon rise above

400 parts per million for a sustained period of time in much of the Northern Hemisphere.

Hourly readings have surpassed 400 ppm in the past week, but daily averages remain just below 400, reported The Guardian. Daily readings are expected to surpass 400 ppm in early May."

HP Source via Guardian.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:20 PM

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#8 Dustoffer

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:07 AM

It hit 400 not 395 and is rising.
http://www.skeptical...lion-Years.html
http://www.ipsnews.n...global-warming/
http://www.wundergro...limate/PETM.asp

Fig.2 the "current" is 31.6GT/yr and rising, already higher than PETM.
Table 1. CO2 per year now is 6.3+ times the rate during PETM.
The rate of warming is 40 times PETM and rising towards 160 times PETM.


http://www.skeptical...-draw-down.html

#9 DeeNeely

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:45 PM

I read the article. It's not that CO2 in the atmosphere is higher than anytime in 54 years. It was the jump that was the highest. The jump in CO2 in the atmosphere took the biggest jump in a year. The actual CO2 levels on a time scale are even more worrying. Its the highest in 3 million years.

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